Sorry Fozzie this change sucks for anybody grinding structures, I'm 100% not 'doing it wrong', you're nerfing the supers DPS output and forcing them to tank less so putting them in more danger while increasing the weapon system risk because CCP refuses to do anything about ISBoxer since its feeding them subs, which amounts to every fight haviing 40+ bombers being ran by 6 guys (totally ok though right, i mean any kind of botting that feeds subs to our little icelandic company can't be all bad right?).

So try not to tell me I'm doing it wrong when you seem to have zero understanding of the current 0.0 meta.

Stop adjusting the things for how you think the game will be played and adjust it based on how its actually being played.

People are actually using ISboxer to death, and you are actually making the supercarriers more vulnerable to it. I guess the end result is supposed to be everybody grinding structures in bombers because you're seriously limiting the options on what people are willing to deal with as far as structure grinding goes.

Why can't you guys get that SOV sucks to deal with, you used to be players, how hard is it to just not screw with the things that allow us to limp through this terrible set of game mechanics without making it worse?

So what you have talked yourself into:
800 dps (now) - OK
760 dps (after change+-) - OK, we need this because of the dda
930 dps (officer dda now) - OK
800-930 dps (faction dda) - SILLY, NERF

You may want to explain where you see silly output, otherwise you are arguing that a , saay 900 dps factionDDA ship with saaay 300dps guns has to be curbed, but a 1100dps factionsink lazor ship with 300dps drones does not.

Guys..

All you need to know for what levers of Racial Drone Spec for T2 Sentries is found right down with T2 Heavies. They are bringing the sentries in line with the heavies, so it'll be Drone Spec IV.

This only makes sense as both Heavies and Sentries are "Battleship" grade weapons, and will have the same requirements.

Also stopping bombers isn't as simple as having a support fleet on grid. You can't reliably hinder bombers unless you have a ton of bubbles up on your fighter bombers and a significant portion of your subcap fleet dedicated to instapopping ships like Legions or Muninns (and by virtue of stacking up on a niche ship like Muninns you weaken your fleet in other ways leaving you much more susceptible in other ways). Even then you can still successfully bomb a lot of drones if you're willing to sacrifice a few cheap stealth bombers. With that said, the fibo HP buff is good and I hope this will bring a better balance between stealth bombers and fighter bombers.

I mean my alliance can just stay full tank fit and not care really, whats a few seconds when you have 50 supers grinding a thing

One more quick update before I go home. I'll do another more comprehensive pass on the thread tomorrow.

For the racial Drone Specialization skill requirements, we're going to be reducing the requirements for all T2 drones to level 1 of the skill.

That means for example Gallente Drone Spec level 1 will unlock Hobgoblin IIs, Hammerhead IIs, Ogre IIs, and Garde IIs (assuming you have the requisite T1 drone skills at level 5). This brings the drone spec skills more in line with the rest of our T2 weapon specialization skills. Training the skill beyond level 1 will still be advisable in order to get the extra damage boost, of course.

your complaint is "isboxer exists" and "bombers exist"

these changes help by making isboxer bombers less effective on fbs sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

This is kind of like requiring a different specialization for each damage type of missile. Not really helping perception of drones as a skill-heavy weapon system.

MAJOR PROBLEM DETECTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fighters have a Signature Resolution of 125m !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


That is Cruiser sized! That means Carriers with tracking mods will be able to PERFECTLY hit cruisers with fighters.

This needs to be adjusted before this change goes live. Bump the Signature Resolution up to the level of Sentry Drones, 400m.

That will make them fully effective vs Battleships but less so as ships scale down down in sized.

honestly, don't touch fighters or fighter bombers till the full capital re balance takes place.

in this situation, just because they CAN do something, doesn't mean they SHOULD do something. if they cant get it right, leave it alone.

I stand corrected. It's still an ill-considered and unnecessary pre-nerf for an obsoleted weapon system, that could have been resurrected.

Clicked on the blog as it was posted in Alliance Chat, saw that Fozzie made it and was about to close it before reading as
usually nothing useful ever comes from that dude.

I decided to read it anyways and i wasn-¦t disappointed. These changes are ****. And thats the most polite way i can find to
adress the upcoming changes. As far as i can remember combat drones haven-¦t been broken.

Drone Interface, Drone UI, Utility and Ewar Drones, all of this could have been adressed but no, CCP Fozzie again feels the urge to **** up an actually good working setup. Seriously, what other things in EvE do you and your team of fumblers have to ruin until CCP decides to offer you the opportunity to unfold your creativity elsewhere.

Rubicon my ass.....

Hey, stop it, i am married...noones calling me treasure except for my wife, honey.

Of course i am attacking him. He is the one responsible for this pile of crap which he is trying to sell us like the best invention since the self inflating rubber doll. Hes the one in charge, the guy with the hat on, El Cappo Primeiro! How could we forget the awesome changes and additions he gave us, like the nullified interceptor. Wohoo, that was truly a magic moment in the history of EvE. The "run back to gate" option was obviously way to difficult for some pilots so he had the close to brilliant idea to lighten the mechanic up that much my Labrador is able to fly interceptors through every gatecamp now. Know what, nullify everything cause being cought in bubbles may hurt the fragile players psyche and we cannot let this happen, aye?

I could adress the changes themselves, cause i bet the guy is a really nice dude in real life and he is just doing the best he can. Know what? I couldn-¦t care less. He is the one that messes up the game, so i am attacking him for making EvE miserable. I would love to see him go. Not my decision though. And no, you cannot have my stuff, i will adapt to the changes and therefor i can adress any drawbacks in the game or the people responsible for it as much as i like.

**** me, we are all indirectly, paying his salary, so why not telling him when his work is shi...suboptimal?

So I compared the new basic damage stats to the old ones for sentry drones. I am deeply troubled. In this day and age, is it truly CCPs intent to buff all sentry damage by 25-58%?

example for Curator I:
old new
basemultiplierspecresultbasemultiplierspecresultchange

50 1.30 0 65 64 1.6 0 102.40157.54%

but instead of the current 20% increase in damage over T1, we will be increasing the base damage multiplier of Tech One sentries and limiting the Tech Two advantage to the 2% per level gained from the racial Drone Specialization skills that will now be required to use T2 sentries.